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Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

Happy Independence Day Michelle πŸŽ‡πŸŽ‰πŸš¨πŸŽ‡πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

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And to you as well!

Running Burning Man's avatar

Happy Fourth! Fly the flag proudly!

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I will do -- on the front lawn. Happy FOurth to you as well!

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Dunno about Gen Washington's Favourites but "George Washington Slept Here" at one time being a(n) (inexplicably) popular marketing claim, as Relics of the True Cross exist in sufficient quantity to build a small house, Places that the general Slept were reportedly in sufficient number that he would have had to rival Methuselah to manage.

Michelle Styles's avatar

I know.

Apparently Elizabeth Phifer (Martin's wife) lay dying in another house while Washington dined on this tour. One always takes these things with a pinch of salt.

I do like it that my Avery ancestor was somewhat humourless and ended up having a duel with Andrew Jackson over a lump of bacon. He would ponderously say 'I refer to Bacon' in court and unwrap his copy...

Another ancestor rode with Cornwallis for awhile, pointing out all the 'rebel' farms which the British then raided. Funnily enough, he was nowhere to be found when they discovered they had been raiding loyalist farms...

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Hello Northumberland! Happy 250th! Good to see You again this fine Friday. Just got back from my daily constitutional.

Thank You for the lessons in history. Fascinating.

I sure hope the opposition to the PB trial continues to grow.

Good luck in the match against Mexico.

I'm glad the heinous attacker was convicted.

That was interesting about Lady Louise and the Queen and JK Rowling.

Through the Looking Glass tells a horrid tale.

Paddy looks great, as always. I'm glad to hear the bees are doing so well. And, as always, TY Michelle.

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And because I thought you'd like this -- one of the original copies of the Declaration has found in found in the UK Naval archives. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrkl104ly5o

jt's avatar

Fascinating. TY Michelle.

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Happy 250th to you JT

I am pleased you enjoyed everything.

I hope you enjoy the weekend.

Bruce Miller's avatar

Happy Fourth, Michelle.

It isn't as if the Ft. Griswold massacre was the only British atrocity during the Revolution. There were the disgraceful prison ships in NY harbor. The burning and looting of coastal towns. Setting the frontier aflame with their loyal native tribes including the murder and scalping of Jane McCrae and the depredations of Butcher Tarleton. Among others.

Michelle Styles's avatar

Oh, I know. Th campaigns in the Carolinas were particularly brutal. Ft Griswold is interesting because it was led by Benedict Arnold.

Clarity Seeker's avatar

I love England and English history and all that they brought to the world. But they were the epitome of colonizers and while they truly uplifted many of their subjects it wasn't always through persuasion and diplomacy

Michelle Styles's avatar

They weren't the worst of the lot (I personally think Belgium, Russia or Japan hold that crown). The French were pretty despicable in the way they ran their colonies. There again you have Mughals, the Turks, etc. SPain and Portugal was fairly terrible as well. The British Empire was mainly run by the Scottish rather than the English btw. For example, Canada was run by a small group of Scottish men. Hong Kong was again Scottish run. To call the British Empire England erases the Scottish contribution which was massive.

Many of the Scots had no choice -- think the Highland Clearances or the loading of boats on the Western Isles (eg Barra). There again, it was a mini Ice Age and the land was unproductive. People were starving. Classism remained akin to feudalism. In Lewis where Trump's mother was from, it was feudal even in the 20th century.

If you look at India -- Hindu Nationalism does not allow for the British to have done anything right. It also does not allow for the Mughals to have made any positive contribution either. The truth is far more subtle. And of course the manner in which Britain pulled out (had no choice really) resulted in a massive population upheaval, over a million dead and ongoing repercussions in Kashmir etc.

The major mystery is how Britain who never had enough of a population to control such a vast swathe managed to do it for so long.

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Your last paragraph is a great observation . Human kind via human nature has been nasty and brutish. Perhaps we are better today . But certainly not in parts of Africa or in Iran. HAPPY 4th. Curious to hear from.you how the brits are viewing today from across the pond

And go luck to England v Mexico. I will be rooting for them to prevail

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It is a real mixture in the papers. Mostly people are just celebrating the American experiment. Lots of people just ignoring as they always do.

That Trump is trying to make himself front and centre is causing some disquiet. I keep telling people -- mostly people are too busy doing their own thing to notice his antics. Enjoy the 4th.

Mexico will most likely win. The whole thing in the UK is a cock up. Starmer agreed longer licensing hours which means until 5 am. Then they were going to alter the time because of thunderstorms and now we are back to 1 am. England would need a miracle to win.

I hopeful for Norway against Brazil (just because it would be amusing) and of course if by some miracle the US are able to beat Belgium, but the US won't have their best striker. It was hilarious that Cape Verde nearly beat Argentina (the red hot favourites)