And because I just discovered it -- this is a great op-ed from Scottish MP Joanna Cherry KC about the Edinburgh University situation and why people in Scotland should care and not dismiss it as a 'culture war' flashpoint. https://archive.is/9OuMU
"Professor Alice Sullivan has rightly posed the question of what underlies Edinburgh’s failure to do so. She asks whether it is cowardice, misogyny, incompetence or all three?"
>> I vote for all three. Following quote tells the tale:
"If there is a war going on in our culture it’s a war against women’s rights, the rights of same-sex-attracted people, artistic and academic freedom and the rights of freedom of belief, freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. This should concern us all."
Thank you for the Andrew Parker Bowles article! Some people live extraordinarily interesting lives. I guess her children must keep out of the spotlight because I never read anything about them.
Another good 'n, Ma'am. And it seems You "guys" over there have more holidays than we do. At least in May, and likely the whole year. Niiiice!
I donno *what* in the "heck" to "say" about Diane Abbot. So I'll just quote somebody who's name I forgot:
<< "And most of all, could she point us in the direction of a book that details the Holocaust for people with red hair? Because clearly, this is an area of history that should be more widely known."
As it happens, I was in 4th or 5th grade when I experienced "red-hair racism." Teacher said, "What if we treated people with red hair different, and a lot worse, just because their hair was red." My face turned as red as my hair. But the point was driven home, not that I needed to learn it. I was 8 years old when I saw "To Kill a Mockingbird" in the theatre. On the drive home, I said I didn't understand the ending. My parents said the Black man died. I understood that much, so asked why. They explained.
As I grew older, red hair turned to brown. Now it's mostly gray, so I can pass as a human being. More-or-less anyhoo... I think I got these two quotes from the same article?
<< "Or is it a way of saying you would have to be correct, so don’t argue with me? As when people refer to “my truth”? I don’t know. Please say if you do. In the meantime, I’ll be off living 'my best life', if I can find it. Where did I last put it down?"
<< "The era of ‘no debate’ on this subject is over in the UK at least."
To the first, I say, "yes." To the second I say, "You're so 'lucky' over there."
<< "Edinburgh students can hardly be said to disagree with gender-critical thought at this point. They merely have not heard the case. "
It *has* to be that way. Because if people heard the case, they most likely *wouldn't* disagree, right?
And I went to that page looking for Your illustrious name, Michelle. The page was deleted. However, i *did* find #25164 "Michelle Styles" on the Wayback Machine. I'd like to meet this "Michelle Styles," as she sounds like a stand-up person. ;-)
I thought this was a good quote from "The Critic:"
<< "By dictating that males may use a female service, or force their own gender identity on society, demanding that we adapt our speech and behaviour to their expressed gender identity and not their sex, transgender people seek to subvert social rules and transform them into legal obligations: from the freedom to use a male pronoun to refer to a male, to the duty to use a female pronoun under pain of social and legal consequences."
As a matter of fact, I just copied the whole article to Word. On the lame theory that I can look it up again later. Hm. But it is like she "said." It's simply unbelievable, to me anyway, that this needs to be said:
<< "Using a male pronoun to refer to a male should never be a crime."
I heard-a that Harvey Marcelin case and also the WDI. I think I donated to them for a while.
Finally.. (do I here applause? ;-)..
That's Scotland for Ya. Edinburgh Uni? SHEESH on them!
<< "Professor Alice Sullivan has rightly posed the question of what underlies Edinburgh’s failure to do so. She asks whether it is cowardice, misogyny, incompetence or all three?"
<< "If there is a war going on in our culture it’s a war against women’s rights, the rights of same-sex-attracted people, artistic and academic freedom and the rights of freedom of belief, freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. This should concern us all."
To the first, I say "most likely, all three." To the second, "I second it."
And, as always, wanna say TY Michelle. Always appreciated.
And yes Britain has many more holidays than the US. Normally about 6 weeks paid vacation and sickness, you are thought odd if you don't take it. People buy a week extra as well.
FWIW, your links to pages in archive.is don't load from this side of the pond. Safari and Firefox browsers refuse loading for lack of a secure connection ...
And because I just discovered it -- this is a great op-ed from Scottish MP Joanna Cherry KC about the Edinburgh University situation and why people in Scotland should care and not dismiss it as a 'culture war' flashpoint. https://archive.is/9OuMU
>> Nice catch, Michelle! Quote:
"Professor Alice Sullivan has rightly posed the question of what underlies Edinburgh’s failure to do so. She asks whether it is cowardice, misogyny, incompetence or all three?"
>> I vote for all three. Following quote tells the tale:
"If there is a war going on in our culture it’s a war against women’s rights, the rights of same-sex-attracted people, artistic and academic freedom and the rights of freedom of belief, freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. This should concern us all."
I forgot to mention that I enjoyed the info on the Picts. TY, as always.
Thank you for the Andrew Parker Bowles article! Some people live extraordinarily interesting lives. I guess her children must keep out of the spotlight because I never read anything about them.
Tom Parker Bowles has written cookbooks and runs some luxury concierge thing. her daughter flies under the radar.
Another good 'n, Ma'am. And it seems You "guys" over there have more holidays than we do. At least in May, and likely the whole year. Niiiice!
I donno *what* in the "heck" to "say" about Diane Abbot. So I'll just quote somebody who's name I forgot:
<< "And most of all, could she point us in the direction of a book that details the Holocaust for people with red hair? Because clearly, this is an area of history that should be more widely known."
As it happens, I was in 4th or 5th grade when I experienced "red-hair racism." Teacher said, "What if we treated people with red hair different, and a lot worse, just because their hair was red." My face turned as red as my hair. But the point was driven home, not that I needed to learn it. I was 8 years old when I saw "To Kill a Mockingbird" in the theatre. On the drive home, I said I didn't understand the ending. My parents said the Black man died. I understood that much, so asked why. They explained.
As I grew older, red hair turned to brown. Now it's mostly gray, so I can pass as a human being. More-or-less anyhoo... I think I got these two quotes from the same article?
<< "Or is it a way of saying you would have to be correct, so don’t argue with me? As when people refer to “my truth”? I don’t know. Please say if you do. In the meantime, I’ll be off living 'my best life', if I can find it. Where did I last put it down?"
<< "The era of ‘no debate’ on this subject is over in the UK at least."
To the first, I say, "yes." To the second I say, "You're so 'lucky' over there."
<< "Edinburgh students can hardly be said to disagree with gender-critical thought at this point. They merely have not heard the case. "
It *has* to be that way. Because if people heard the case, they most likely *wouldn't* disagree, right?
And I went to that page looking for Your illustrious name, Michelle. The page was deleted. However, i *did* find #25164 "Michelle Styles" on the Wayback Machine. I'd like to meet this "Michelle Styles," as she sounds like a stand-up person. ;-)
I thought this was a good quote from "The Critic:"
<< "By dictating that males may use a female service, or force their own gender identity on society, demanding that we adapt our speech and behaviour to their expressed gender identity and not their sex, transgender people seek to subvert social rules and transform them into legal obligations: from the freedom to use a male pronoun to refer to a male, to the duty to use a female pronoun under pain of social and legal consequences."
As a matter of fact, I just copied the whole article to Word. On the lame theory that I can look it up again later. Hm. But it is like she "said." It's simply unbelievable, to me anyway, that this needs to be said:
<< "Using a male pronoun to refer to a male should never be a crime."
I heard-a that Harvey Marcelin case and also the WDI. I think I donated to them for a while.
Finally.. (do I here applause? ;-)..
That's Scotland for Ya. Edinburgh Uni? SHEESH on them!
<< "Professor Alice Sullivan has rightly posed the question of what underlies Edinburgh’s failure to do so. She asks whether it is cowardice, misogyny, incompetence or all three?"
<< "If there is a war going on in our culture it’s a war against women’s rights, the rights of same-sex-attracted people, artistic and academic freedom and the rights of freedom of belief, freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. This should concern us all."
To the first, I say "most likely, all three." To the second, "I second it."
And, as always, wanna say TY Michelle. Always appreciated.
Thank you. I am so pleased you enjoyed it -- even if it was a long one.
I am really pleased to know that the page has been deleted!
I donno.. I meant my blather was a long one. Yours was just right!
And, yeah. Although it's comforting they found were 10s of thousands of sane people. I didn't know there were that many.
I wondered how they put the list together and if someone sat there fuming...
Yeah. I can still see the steam comin' outta their ears.
Ooooooh. That were a *long* one.
And yes Britain has many more holidays than the US. Normally about 6 weeks paid vacation and sickness, you are thought odd if you don't take it. People buy a week extra as well.
Ooooooohweee! Must be nice!
Always learn a lotta new things from You, Michelle.
People in the UK are always bemused how little vacation people in the US and Canada have...
I can see why. IIRC, France has a lotta vacation, and they're probably bemused, too.
Forgot to say the new Robert Galbraith -- The Running Grave will be out in September. There will be 10 books in the Strike series (currently).
FWIW, your links to pages in archive.is don't load from this side of the pond. Safari and Firefox browsers refuse loading for lack of a secure connection ...
Oh how annoying. I thought I had found a work around. I will try and remember to put both in as well.